i'm pleased to have roger mcnamee at this table for the first time. welcome. >> a great honor to be here. >> rose: we've known each other about 25 years. >> long time. when you were here or someone like you is here, not like you sour whole goal is to say cast a light on the future for us. because you are having to do that because that's your business, to understand the future. >> i call it realtime anthropology and the notion is that you're looking at the world as it is today and understanding how technology both will influence it but more importantly how we will influence the technology. and the thing that's so exciting about this moment is that for the first time technology is not just available to governments, not just available to businesses but the real power is in the hands of the consumer. and if there's a democratizing force that's begun to percolate out of silicon valley, it's brand new. i think of it this way, marl marx used to talk about the fact that the owners of capital controlled everything and he wanted to move to the proletariat., whi